So I am thinking about doing this one. It's about 3 weeks after the ING. And it's in the woods and it's 13.1 miles. This is good and bad. Bad because it is gravel and trees and hills and streams and more. Good because you have an excuse to walk. Walking is totally allowed when climbing up steep hills and crossing rivers and all that. It just depends on how steep. The Subaru dealership near my house is a sponsor and is offering free numbers if you test drive a Subie. So, to save $50 and not feel so bad if I don't do the race, the Volvo and I may go test drive a Subaru this weekend.